Debunking the conspiracy
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Trump tactics bolster momentum for Birther movement
Conspiracy theories are the greatest form of argument ever created. No amount of logic, however well delivered, can beat them. They subvert every action taken against them, even if that action happens to be inaction.
The media loves them because they attract an audience by playing on fears of governments gone awry or unscrupulous, inhumane corporate practices. Conspiracy theories never truly die, either.
Ten years after the event, a drive around Las Vegas will still reveal people standing on corners with their “9/11 Truth” sandwich boards.
Kennedy was shot 47 years ago, and the movement to uncover the conspiracy behind that tragedy is still going strong.
There’s even a group of people who, more than 350 years after Galileo, dispute the idea that the Earth orbits around the sun, claiming that scientists fabricated the evidence. No, I’m not making this up. They’re called “geocentrists,” and they have conventions.
All of this brings me to Donald Trump, who has decided to cash in on the so-called “Birther” conspiracy.
The claim made by Birthers is that President Barack Obama was not born in the U.S. The basis of this claim is that Obama has refused to reveal his birth certificate.
Now, when people make this argument, they leave a few words out, so what they’re really trying to say is that Obama hasn’t revealed his birth certificate to the public.
Those last three words, “to the public,” are important because no president has ever been obligated to do that.
The fact that his certificate of live birth is posted on the Internet for all to see is already a step above and beyond anything he’s actually required to do.
It was only necessary for Obama to prove his birth credentials, so to speak, to government officials. The claim, then, is not only that Obama is a liar but that the government is corrupt and keeping the truth about the location of his birth a secret.
There’s nothing really new about charges such as these of a government cover-up, but the evidence that Trump has been using showcases some of the best qualities of a conspiracy theory.
For example, Trump is deeply concerned that there aren’t many people who remember Obama’s birth.
He recently said, “You have no nurses — this is the president of the United States — that remember. He could have been born outside of this country.”
Go ahead and ignore the fact that future presidents of the U.S. aren’t born with signs around their necks announcing that unknown fact in order to encourage memories of their birth. That’s of minor note compared to Trump’s next move.
He goes on to ridicule the idea that the governor of Hawaii could possibly remember Obama’s birth, claiming that it’s just a ploy by a fellow Democrat.
And there it is, the true glory of the conspiracy theory, the ability to pick and choose what evidence you accept and what you don’t with no uniform criteria dictating how such a choice is made.
Trump wants a witness to Obama’s birth, but it has to come from a specific source, a source he knows doesn’t exist. All other eye witness claims can simply be waved off as part of the conspiracy itself.
He doesn’t even bother to bring up the fact that a teacher remembers discussing Obama’s birth with the now-deceased pediatrician that delivered him. She’s probably part of the conspiracy, too — sneaky Democrats.
In regard to the announcement of Obama’s birth in a Honolulu newspaper, Trump says that he has never heard of a paper printing a birth announcement — ever. It’s fiction as far as he’s concerned — more fabricated evidence.
This is why conspiracy theories can never be defeated. Any evidence offered against them is simply dismissed as part of the conspiracy.
When Obama’s certificate of live birth was put online, the cries of forgery went up. If he were to produce his birth certificate, then the result would be the same.
Should he continue to ignore the Birthers, the only smart option when dealing with a conspiracy theory, more people like Trump will try to cash in on it. It’s a lose-lose situation.
Trump is a smart man. It’s highly unlikely that he actually believes any of the garbage he’s spewing all over the airwaves. Even Bill O’Reilly called him out on it.
It will endear him to the far right, though, and it will provide great publicity for the launch of a potential presidential campaign.
Seeing a big-name celebrity challenging Obama’s validity might also work to undermine voter confidence in the current president, since many people are all too willing to lend special weight to what celebrities have to say. Like I said, he’s a smart man.
I see symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome in Obama supporters.
They fell for the election propaganda and the online posting of the Certificate of Live Birth.
They fell for the sensationalism of a colored man running for president in their lifetime.
They very much wanted to see dramatic change in the US political spectrum.
They had selfish reasons to have a person of color in the Oval Office.
They ignored the US Constitution or they were sucessfully dumbed down by the unionized education system.
They ignored the challenges to his character.
They voted for Barack Obama, in good faith, thinking they were doing so within the US Constitution.
But, now, when faced with evidence that counters what their minds had locked into, they exhibit denial that they are in error, and anger towards anybody who challenges Obama, or attempts to destroy their firm beliefs that he should be a US president, above the requirements of the US Constitution.
In short Obama supporters are exhibiting symptoms of addiction to Obama.
The first step in the 12-step Process to Overcome Addiction is to be willing to admit you are powerless over the substance of your addiction and that you need God’s help to survive.
What these dedicated “Obots” fail to see is that the US is riding on train heading down the tracks, and We the People are the engineer. If we all fail to drive the train safely, then we all crash together.
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7 – Consular Affairs
7 FAM 1110 Page 1 of 13
7 FAM 1100 ACQUISITION AND RETENTION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND NATIONALITY
7 FAM 1110 ACQUISITION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP BY BIRTH IN THE UNITED STATES
7 FAM 1113 NOT INCLUDED IN THE MEANING OF “IN THE UNITED STATES”
(CT:CON-314; 08-21-2009)
c. Birth on U.S. Military Base Outside of the United States or Birth on U.S. Embassy or Consulate Premises Abroad:
(1) Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not born in the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.
John Bingham in the Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 39th Congress, 1st Session 1866
Who are natural born citizens?
All persons born within the Republic, OF PARENTS OWING ALLEGIANCE TO NO OTHER SOVEREIGNTY, ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS.
You should read the US Constitution.
Article 1 The Legislative
Section 2 Clause 2 &
1 Section 3 Clause 3 require
“a Citizen of the United States”
Obama is “a Citizen of the United States”. He can be a US Senator.
Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 The Executive
“No person except a natural born Citizen [1], or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution[2], shall be eligible to the Office of President; … .”
[1] Barack Obama was born a dual citizen. His birth father owed allegiance to England and his adopted father owed allegiance to Indonesia. He is not a natural born Citizen.
[2] Barack Obama was not alive on September 17, 1787, “at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution.” He did not become a US Citizen when the US Constitution was adopted. His parents did not become US Citizens when the US Constitution was adopted. He was not born to two US Citizen parents.
He is ineligible to be a US President.
Certification of Live Birth v. Birth Certificate
FactCheck.org, says” FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.”
Then where are the photos of the “original birth certificate”?
Why did FactCheck.org only post a “prima facie copy”?
Can you accept the truth that FactCheck.org has committed wire fraud by implying they posted the original, while posting a “prima facie copy”?
Look at the back of Edith Coats’ Birth Certificate and look at Obama’s COLB.
Edith Coats Hawaii Longform 1962 #151- 62 – 08498
Edith Coats’ Birth Certificate is stamped on the rear:
“I CERTIFY THIS IS A TRUE COPY OF THE RECORD ON FILE IN THE HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH”\"
Edith Coats has displayed a true copy of an original birth certificate, which contains public and confidential information.
—”In 1961 there were four different types of birth certificates or certifications available:—-
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WRONG.
there is only one type and has only been one type of LEGAL birth certificate.
The state of Hawaii has issued one for the president.
You fail.
— “Think about it, what you are saying is that Osama Bin Laden would only have to impregnate an american woman and that child could become president”—
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Yep. Provided enough people vote for him (or her).
—”When the constitution was written they said “unless you were here at the time of the signing” or something to that affect.”—
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Double you tee eff
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Typical birthetard
This article is the typical liberal drivel to try and distract from the real issue. First off, John McCain was challenged on the same issue. What did McCain do? He produced all of his records, including a copy of the original birth certificate to the Senate for review. There was an act of the Senate deeming McCain a natural born citizen. Obama was present for that. McCain did that in April, and in June Odumbo produces a photograph of a birth certificate to moveon and another website basically says that is all that is required, and let the liberal press attack anyone who dares questions Odumbo a “birther”.
In 1961 there were four different types of birth certificates or certifications available. One type was issued by a hospital and included the doctors name, the name of the hospital and witnesses. There was a certification form available to any Hawaiian resident who could come in within 18 months of a birth, and on their word alone with no other verification, obtain a birth certification for the baby.
So, the question remains. Is the birth certificate that the State of Hawaii has announced they are holding (and Odumbo could produce by signing a release and paying $12.00) the type that the hospital in Honolulu would issue. It should be as Obama has declared on numerous occasions he was born in that hospital.
Or, is it the type that his grandmother signed for with no other proof or verification of the location of the birth. If it is this type raises the question. The most important question will be proof that Obama will have to submit to verify the location of his birth. That will require a doctors verification, witnesses, etc. There would also be the questions about why Obama has lied about where he was born.
If Obama cannot produce a birth certificate from the hospital as he has claimed then there is more evidence required to confirm Obama is eligible for the office. Obama, sign the release and pay the $12.00 and produce the form the State of Hawaii is holding. There are legitimate questions that need to be answered. Obama is the one that applied for the office and he nor the government should hide any information from citizens.
Chilidog,
When the constitution was written they said “unless you were here at the time of the signing” or something to that affect.
They put that in there because the framers and fathers of our nation were not born here (in most cases) thus were not born of parents from the USA. They were however hugely for America after fighting england and would make great presidents.
Think about it, what you are saying is that Osama Bin Laden would only have to impregnate an american woman and that child could become president. If that were the case then there would be no need for the Natural Born Citizen requirement. Plus, as I stated above, John Bingham said on the house floor (serveral times actually without objection) what constitutes an NBC. “of parents” and no allegiance to another country at birth.
We can all agree that Obama did not meet this requirement unless you believe the constitution is a document that gets in your way of your version of democracy.
This is not a conspiracy in the slightest.
Obama said his father was born in Kenya = fact
Obama said his birth was governed by the 1948 British Nationality act = fact
Constitution says only prez and vp have to be natural born citizens=fact
Congressman John Bingham in 1850′s said on the house floor a natural born citizen is one born “of parents” whom owe “no allegiance” to another country=FACT
John Bingham is the father of the 14th Ammendment thus would know all about regular citizenship and NBC=FACT
Obama did not have both parents as citizens AND one owed allegiance to another country(father) thus Obama owed allegiance to multiple countries=FACT
Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen thus is illegally holding the office = FACT
Where’s the conspiracy?
—”The Constitution makes a clear distinction between citizens and natural born citizens. To be President you must be a natural born citizen whose parents are both US citizens. The wording of the Constitution makes it absolutely clear that this distinction exists.”—
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No, it does not. You have no idea what you are talking about and your iterprestation of what the Constitution says means about as much as a fart in a huricane.
You are just simply misleading people about what the ‘birthers’ stand for. The issue is not whether he was born in Hawaii or not… that’s just your straw man argument to distract from the real issue. In fact, for the sake of this argument I will assume that he was born in Hawaii.
The Constitution makes a clear distinction between citizens and natural born citizens. To be President you must be a natural born citizen whose parents are both US citizens. The wording of the Constitution makes it absolutely clear that this distinction exists.
Barack Obama’s father was a British citizen from Kenya who was in the US on a student visa. As a result, Barack Obama is a US citizen but not a natural born citizen. In fact, was born with duel citizenship between the US and UK.